out in 4th for about $400 with blinds so high i shoved with 22 and guy with 33 called my shove is close but his call im pretty sure is wrong ah well..... 4th out of 10k is good
Originally posted by Leito: out in 4th for about $400 with blinds so high i shoved with 22 and guy with 33 called my shove is close but his call im pretty sure is wrong ah well..... 4th out of 10k is good
Nice one dude.
Ermm... OPR says your ROI for November is 13673%!! Are you that good?!!
Originally posted by cochise: Hello BlunderCity, I've been reading your posts, some interesting stuff, my questions is; do you make a living from playing poker, either live or on-line ?? If Yes, would you briefly tell me how did you start ?
Well I wrote this post about 6 weeks ago, it might give you an idea of why poker is now my main source of income:
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Originally posted by liquid power: Been following you guys for ages now.Blunder Eagolo Hot Shot. Do you have day jobs or are you students? I do find your ups and downs fascinating though. I can't imagine playing a game that lasts hours and you might end up with fcukall!
Well first of all we are all tournament players here but you can play cash games and end your session whenever you want be it 30mn or 5 hours.
I tend to play satellites, MTTs and double or nothings. Satellites last for about 90mn, double or nothing something like 30mn and large field MTTs take about 3 hours to reach the money and 90mn for turbo. A 2000 player MTT will take about 8 hours to win with 15mn blinds.
Hot Shot's sit and gos will normally take a few hours to win for multitable ones and about 1 hour for single table.
As for jobs I lost mine with the recession late last year (nothing like a redundancy notice to spice up your Christmas!!) I had a useless job (trading, we didn't produce anything) so it's no great loss to the world. I guess we had to cut down on the amount of speculation we do on any markets, too much speculation creates serious sets of problems. Besides it's not fair on the people who actually produce something!
So I did a few temp jobs a few months ago and playing poker in the evening but I got pissed off with those crappy jobs my agency provided. Would you believe it, in February I worked for a company where I was making "courtesy calls" for £10 an hour. Pick up the phone and say thank you to some idiot on behalf of a marketing company. Seriously, poker is "a little more fun"!! I haven't worked (office work that is) for about 5 months now. I guess if my profitability increases further from here (been playing poker for about 2 years) I will consider becoming a pro.
Right now I've got Supernova status on PokerStars until February 2010 and the job market is really dodgy so that's what I intend to do for a living until then.
I play exclusively online but will at some stage foray into the live arena. The problem live is that you can only play 1 table at a time. You see this is how it works: if you're a live player and you wanna make more money, you move up the stakes. If your an online player and you wanna make more money, you open more tables.
I will continue playing poker for a living until at least March 2010 which is when my Supernova status expires but chances are I will try to keep it for a few more months (10K VPPs a month required to keep it on a month on month basis), perhaps even until the summer since Stars have nice World Series freebies for Supernovas and I'm gonna try to make it to Vegas next year.
Finally I've only been doing this full time since January but I was a winning recreational player before winning about 10K in 2008 (my job was pretty flexible and allowed me to play evenings and most nights). So I was sort of expecting I could make money from the game playing it full time this year.
So far my first year of full time poker has been fairly satisfactory although I will likely fall a little short of the $30K (£20K) target I had for 2009. It's tax free so that's the good news but ideally I'd like to see those numbers improve next year.
I noticed a lot of competent online players tend to really start getting serious success in their 3rd year in poker. So here's to 2010!!
Originally posted by Leito: out in 4th for about $400 with blinds so high i shoved with 22 and guy with 33 called my shove is close but his call im pretty sure is wrong ah well..... 4th out of 10k is good
Nice one dude.
Ermm... OPR says your ROI for November is 13673%!! Are you that good?!!
yes! do you want poker coaching?? i charge only $49.95 per hour! haha kidding
well...i dont know what OPR means or what that crazy % means.......dont think its possible for anyone at any limit considering the luck factor in poker...maybe its because i only played 2 sats and the $1 MTT tourney where i got 4th in november so its not like i played much...only been 2 days in november
ye i am pretty good and i understand the game pretty well and have a good feeling about the game by now but never planned on risking any money on it...was playing on a free site for a while were i made $200 for nothing but dnt hav paypal to withdraw it then min-deposited $10 on bet365 poker where i played 2-3 times a week i was learning how to play it by watching poker after dark then i read every second page of doyle brunsons book super system
and then i found pokerstrategy.com and i took the free $50 they offer,read some of their articles (didnt learn much new) and started playing on pokerstars about 3 months ago...i quickly noticed the players were pretty poor at the microlimits but wanted to use proper bankroll management and kept playing anyway and got it to $350 in 2 months playing 1-2 hours a day...and then i doubled my bankroll by getting 4th in that $1 tourney... now i can change my tourney filters and maybe play in some tourney u play in
Thats my poker career so far!!
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at the start of the tourney i called a guy who had a few pennies left with Q8 on the BB and he had 22. I missed the flop and hit an 8 on the river and he said that i am the lukiest player he ever saw and if i dont win it with the luck i have then i am a total donkey...it didnt make much sense cuz it was only 10 min gone in the tourney and i played 2 or 3 hands... so i looked at the tourney lobby and saw 9500 left and was like i should win this?? there is like over 9000 players!! how much luck do i need to win it?? and then remembered this when playing on the final table...it was weird its like the law of attraction(if anyone knows about it)...i was thinking of making it deep and it happened
i see u play a lot of sats to $55 blundercity and u probably unregister then right? do you have lots of tournament tickets cuz of that?? if yes what do u do with them?? sell them or just use them as normal money?
Originally posted by Leito: i see u play a lot of sats to $55 blundercity and u probably unregister then right? do you have lots of tournament tickets cuz of that?? if yes what do u do with them?? sell them or just use them as normal money?
Yeah I unregister and use them to finance my programme of tournaments and satellites. I never sell them, since I spend about 4 grand a week on tourneys and sats, my T$s don't last long.
PokerStars Game #34964921482: Tournament #209010494, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (300/600) - 2009/11/05 21:37:14 WET [2009/11/05 16:37:14 ET] Table '209010494 318' 9-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: dzsinn6 (5860 in chips) Seat 2: Big_RobS (24896 in chips) Seat 3: BlunderCity (5175 in chips) Seat 4: mi777 (9303 in chips) Seat 5: Misticin Man (12815 in chips) Seat 6: Predsedatel6 (43250 in chips) Seat 7: OKTilTheRivr (17365 in chips) Seat 8: Jeopardy1 (2881 in chips) Seat 9: sutixxx (11375 in chips) dzsinn6: posts the ante 70 Big_RobS: posts the ante 70 BlunderCity: posts the ante 70 mi777: posts the ante 70 Misticin Man: posts the ante 70 Predsedatel6: posts the ante 70 OKTilTheRivr: posts the ante 70 Jeopardy1: posts the ante 70 sutixxx: posts the ante 70 OKTilTheRivr: posts small blind 300 Jeopardy1: posts big blind 600 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to BlunderCity [Js Jh] sutixxx: folds dzsinn6: folds Big_RobS: folds BlunderCity: raises 1200 to 1800 mi777: folds Misticin Man: folds Predsedatel6 has timed out while being disconnected Predsedatel6: folds Predsedatel6 is sitting out OKTilTheRivr: raises 3600 to 5400 Predsedatel6 is disconnected Jeopardy1: folds Predsedatel6 is connected Predsedatel6 has returned BlunderCity: calls 3305 and is all-in Uncalled bet (295) returned to OKTilTheRivr *** FLOP *** [2d 4d Qd] *** TURN *** [2d 4d Qd] [Ah] *** RIVER *** [2d 4d Qd Ah] [Td] *** SHOW DOWN *** OKTilTheRivr: shows [Th Ts] (three of a kind, Tens) BlunderCity: shows [Js Jh] (a pair of Jacks) OKTilTheRivr collected 11440 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 11440 | Rake 0 Board [2d 4d Qd Ah Td] Seat 1: dzsinn6 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: Big_RobS folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: BlunderCity showed [Js Jh] and lost with a pair of Jacks Seat 4: mi777 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Misticin Man folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: Predsedatel6 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: OKTilTheRivr (small blind) showed [Th Ts] and won (11440) with three of a kind, Tens Seat 8: Jeopardy1 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: sutixxx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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PokerStars Game #34965201230: Tournament #208700427, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2009/11/05 21:43:20 WET [2009/11/05 16:43:20 ET] Table '208700427 148' 9-max Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: BlunderCity (13615 in chips) Seat 2: zwornec (5695 in chips) Seat 3: sanovice (10230 in chips) Seat 4: Mr.F3n7asY (9505 in chips) Seat 5: skry (10160 in chips) Seat 6: viboa3 (9075 in chips) Seat 7: WTFULOOKNAT (6435 in chips) Seat 8: Laneman29 (12650 in chips) Seat 9: piorell (2320 in chips) BlunderCity: posts the ante 60 zwornec: posts the ante 60 sanovice: posts the ante 60 Mr.F3n7asY: posts the ante 60 skry: posts the ante 60 viboa3: posts the ante 60 WTFULOOKNAT: posts the ante 60 Laneman29: posts the ante 60 piorell: posts the ante 60 viboa3: posts small blind 150 WTFULOOKNAT: posts big blind 300 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to BlunderCity [Ad Ac] Laneman29: folds piorell: folds BlunderCity: raises 600 to 900 zwornec: folds sanovice: folds Mr.F3n7asY: folds skry: folds viboa3: folds WTFULOOKNAT: calls 600 *** FLOP *** [3h 3d 9s] WTFULOOKNAT: bets 5475 and is all-in BlunderCity: calls 5475 *** TURN *** [3h 3d 9s] [Js] *** RIVER *** [3h 3d 9s Js] [Kh] *** SHOW DOWN *** WTFULOOKNAT: shows [Jh Jc] (a full house, Jacks full of Threes) BlunderCity: shows [Ad Ac] (two pair, Aces and Threes) WTFULOOKNAT collected 13440 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 13440 | Rake 0 Board [3h 3d 9s Js Kh] Seat 1: BlunderCity showed [Ad Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Threes Seat 2: zwornec folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: sanovice folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: Mr.F3n7asY folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: skry (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: viboa3 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 7: WTFULOOKNAT (big blind) showed [Jh Jc] and won (13440) with a full house, Jacks full of Threes Seat 8: Laneman29 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: piorell folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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PokerStars Game #34965400784: Tournament #208700427, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2009/11/05 21:47:40 WET [2009/11/05 16:47:40 ET] Table '208700427 148' 9-max Seat #9 is the button Seat 1: BlunderCity (6700 in chips) Seat 2: zwornec (7495 in chips) Seat 3: sanovice (9390 in chips) Seat 4: Mr.F3n7asY (9265 in chips) Seat 5: skry (9920 in chips) Seat 6: viboa3 (5705 in chips) Seat 7: WTFULOOKNAT (12810 in chips) Seat 8: Laneman29 (13700 in chips) Seat 9: piorell (4700 in chips) BlunderCity: posts the ante 80 zwornec: posts the ante 80 sanovice: posts the ante 80 Mr.F3n7asY: posts the ante 80 skry: posts the ante 80 viboa3: posts the ante 80 WTFULOOKNAT: posts the ante 80 Laneman29: posts the ante 80 piorell: posts the ante 80 BlunderCity: posts small blind 200 zwornec: posts big blind 400 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to BlunderCity [9h 9c] sanovice: raises 8910 to 9310 and is all-in Mr.F3n7asY: folds skry: folds viboa3: folds WTFULOOKNAT: folds Laneman29: folds piorell: folds BlunderCity: calls 6420 and is all-in zwornec: folds Uncalled bet (2690) returned to sanovice *** FLOP *** [8s 6s Qc] *** TURN *** [8s 6s Qc] [Tc] *** RIVER *** [8s 6s Qc Tc] [Ts] *** SHOW DOWN *** BlunderCity: shows [9h 9c] (two pair, Tens and Nines) sanovice: shows [8c 8h] (a full house, Eights full of Tens) sanovice collected 14360 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 14360 | Rake 0 Board [8s 6s Qc Tc Ts] Seat 1: BlunderCity (small blind) showed [9h 9c] and lost with two pair, Tens and Nines Seat 2: zwornec (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 3: sanovice showed [8c 8h] and won (14360) with a full house, Eights full of Tens Seat 4: Mr.F3n7asY folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: skry folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: viboa3 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: WTFULOOKNAT folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Laneman29 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: piorell (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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PokerStars Game #34965684855: Tournament #209010514, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2009/11/05 21:53:56 WET [2009/11/05 16:53:56 ET] Table '209010514 499' 9-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: donrio35 (37423 in chips) Seat 2: ANGELLMAN1 (11996 in chips) Seat 3: Leta27 (31129 in chips) Seat 4: budd0007 (16976 in chips) Seat 5: latiad (9850 in chips) Seat 6: GEOLIVE78 (15163 in chips) Seat 7: BVB_02.12. (8375 in chips) Seat 8: BlunderCity (3675 in chips) Seat 9: Grumly (16332 in chips) donrio35: posts the ante 50 ANGELLMAN1: posts the ante 50 Leta27: posts the ante 50 budd0007: posts the ante 50 latiad: posts the ante 50 GEOLIVE78: posts the ante 50 BVB_02.12.: posts the ante 50 BlunderCity: posts the ante 50 Grumly: posts the ante 50 BVB_02.12.: posts small blind 300 BlunderCity: posts big blind 600 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to BlunderCity [Kc Jc] Grumly: folds donrio35: folds ANGELLMAN1: folds Leta27: folds budd0007: folds latiad: folds GEOLIVE78: folds BVB_02.12.: raises 7725 to 8325 and is all-in BlunderCity: calls 3025 and is all-in Uncalled bet (4700) returned to BVB_02.12. *** FLOP *** [5s 2h 2c] *** TURN *** [5s 2h 2c] [5d] *** RIVER *** [5s 2h 2c 5d] [9s] *** SHOW DOWN *** BVB_02.12.: shows [5c 6s] (a full house, Fives full of Deuces) BlunderCity: shows [Kc Jc] (two pair, Fives and Deuces) BVB_02.12. collected 7700 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 7700 | Rake 0 Board [5s 2h 2c 5d 9s] Seat 1: donrio35 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: ANGELLMAN1 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Leta27 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: budd0007 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: latiad folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: GEOLIVE78 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: BVB_02.12. (small blind) showed [5c 6s] and won (7700) with a full house, Fives full of Deuces Seat 8: BlunderCity (big blind) showed [Kc Jc] and lost with two pair, Fives and Deuces Seat 9: Grumly folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Just another day at the office... err wait another quarter of an hour at the office.
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PokerStars Game #34996888395: Tournament #209010405, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (20/40) - 2009/11/06 17:28:55 WET [2009/11/06 12:28:55 ET] Table '209010405 145' 9-max Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: T-Bill (1685 in chips) Seat 2: normski vii (1940 in chips) Seat 3: woody-honda (1830 in chips) Seat 4: Bosn Al (860 in chips) Seat 5: BlunderCity (1780 in chips) Seat 6: TOM JR (1960 in chips) Seat 7: ludo221 (2000 in chips) Seat 8: XPaddy1975 (3335 in chips) Seat 9: candyman1512 (2000 in chips) TOM JR: posts small blind 20 ludo221: posts big blind 40 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to BlunderCity [Ac As] XPaddy1975: calls 40 candyman1512: calls 40 T-Bill: folds normski vii: calls 40 woody-honda: folds Bosn Al: calls 40 BlunderCity: raises 360 to 400 TOM JR: folds ludo221: folds XPaddy1975: calls 360 candyman1512: calls 360 normski vii: folds Bosn Al: folds *** FLOP *** [Jd 2c 6h] XPaddy1975: bets 1400 candyman1512: raises 200 to 1600 and is all-in BlunderCity: calls 1380 and is all-in XPaddy1975: calls 200 BlunderCity said, "lol" *** TURN *** [Jd 2c 6h] [4h] *** RIVER *** [Jd 2c 6h 4h] [Js] *** SHOW DOWN *** XPaddy1975: shows [Td Jc] (three of a kind, Jacks) candyman1512: shows [Kd 6d] (two pair, Jacks and Sixes) XPaddy1975 collected 440 from side pot BlunderCity: shows [Ac As] (two pair, Aces and Jacks) XPaddy1975 collected 5480 from main pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 5920 Main pot 5480. Side pot 440. | Rake 0 Board [Jd 2c 6h 4h Js] Seat 1: T-Bill folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: normski vii folded before Flop Seat 3: woody-honda folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: Bosn Al folded before Flop Seat 5: BlunderCity (button) showed [Ac As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks Seat 6: TOM JR (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 7: ludo221 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 8: XPaddy1975 showed [Td Jc] and won (5920) with three of a kind, Jacks Seat 9: candyman1512 showed [Kd 6d] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sixes
I raise 10 times the big blind preflop and still found 2 callers, J10o and K6s who could not fold. Even to a 10xBB raise!!!!
seriously now, there has to be something awfully wrong with the way i approach tournaments. i was playing a 8.8$ 500 cap turbo, spent most of the tourney, until the break (110 players left) sitting comfortably at the top 20 places, even top 10. after the break the all in fest started, and finally i crashed the only decent hand i got, 10-10 against Q-Q. and again i busted out at 69th place, 54 people were getting paid, just short of the bubble.
maybe i am not as reckless as other people and i am not ready to risk all my chips in hands i know are not good enough. in this tourney i tried really hard to increase my stack all the time until the break, made it having a stack double the average, a head start that vanished in the first 3-4 hands after the break when people started going all in after my raises (new at the table, it's not like they knew whether i was stealing or not). and not even 8k stacks all in when average was 14k, no sir, 35k stacks all in that had me covered...
i can't understand what's going wrong... maybe i have to start being as reckless as others apparently are. maybe i have to start being more aggressive, it seems that careful play doesn't pay out. i can't rely on my luck, i'm losing too many hands i'm favorite when i go all in and i don't ever seem to suckout. in this tourney my only decent "suckout" was winning early a three way all in AK vs QQ vs rags, that isn't even a proper suckout. but seriously, how can i call a reraise all in (that also has me covered) with Q-9 or J-10 off? i have worked really hard to build that stack, it would be stupid to waste it at such a hand...
what is your play guys when you have a decent stack, let's say top 30% of the field, relatively early in the tourney?
Originally posted by egaleo_city12: what is your play guys when you have a decent stack, let's say top 30% of the field, relatively early in the tourney?
I tend to struggle when I'm doing too well too early. Sometimes it seems your running like a god and then when the blinds go up and the pots get bigger, you get bad beats, can't win a flip, opponents outdraw you, you constantly have to make difficult folds and so on. But hey they keep reminding us that no day 1 chipleader has ever won the WSOP Main Event so it seems there is a curse of the early tournament big stack after all.
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Originally posted by egaleo_city12: seriously now, there has to be something awfully wrong with the way i approach tournaments. i was playing a 8.8$ 500 cap turbo, spent most of the tourney, until the break (110 players left) sitting comfortably at the top 20 places, even top 10. after the break the all in fest started, and finally i crashed the only decent hand i got, 10-10 against Q-Q. and again i busted out at 69th place, 54 people were getting paid, just short of the bubble.
How can you be in the top 10 stack and lose it all with 1010?
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Originally posted by egaleo_city12: maybe i am not as reckless as other people and i am not ready to risk all my chips in hands i know are not good enough. in this tourney i tried really hard to increase my stack all the time until the break, made it having a stack double the average, a head start that vanished in the first 3-4 hands after the break when people started going all in after my raises (new at the table, it's not like they knew whether i was stealing or not). and not even 8k stacks all in when average was 14k, no sir, 35k stacks all in that had me covered...
The hands you raised with can't have been too good if you had to fold them all despite the pot odds that you get as the original raiser.
Also remember that when you have a large stack you can get a little more active, raising more and push people around but whether you're short or big stack position remains just as important.
Say you're UTG or UTG+1 and you get dealt Q10, it's only Q10 whether your half the average or 4 times the average. So while you can get more active, you should remain just as inactive as you should always be from early position (or at least that's my opinion). Those are the spots where you get re-raised from. People think I'm mad folding AJ or A10 UTG but hey that makes sense to me and if people wanna play from 1st or 2nd position, goog for them (and good luck). However you can afford to be a lot more aggressive from middle and late positions.
Also raising the blinds very frequently from early position and from the small blind is a relatively new phenomenon that goes against the wisdom of textbook poker. The problem is that you are out of position on the flop if you do get called. If you have a very aggressive nature at the table then you can use that to your advantage cos you can cbet 10% of the time or be first to the bluff. But generally, but especially if you more of a tight player, you really wanna wait for say the player to check the flop before betting with nothing. So for most players, to be able to outplay your opponents, you need to have position on them.
As for the big stacks/mid stacks re-raising you, they either had big hands or felt you would always fold and move on. You have a lot more to lose as a large stack. We talk a lot about the big stacks bullying the short stacks but that's at a cetain stage of the tournament (late or bubble). At earlier stages, it's often the short and mid stacks that tend to pick on the big stacks in similar ways as shortstackers in cash games (for as long as they have a pair of testicules of course). The big stacks tend to be abused by good mid stack players because they assume you are too aggressive and weak a lot of the time while the shorter stacks have less to lose.
Good players will disregard this psychological effect and go on as normal, even take advantage of that.
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Originally posted by egaleo_city12: i can't understand what's going wrong... maybe i have to start being as reckless as others apparently are. maybe i have to start being more aggressive, it seems that careful play doesn't pay out.
No. When you have a big stack, you naturally tend to become reckless so it's not a good idea to push your luck even further. It's when you have a big stack that you should be extra careful. But you can gamble a bit more and when I mean gamble, I don't mean trying to win all in hands as a huge dog, but what you can do for instance is accept coinflips whenever they present themselves. Normally you want to avoid them. When you have a big stack you should probably seek them out.
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Originally posted by egaleo_city12: i can't rely on my luck, i'm losing too many hands i'm favorite when i go all in and i don't ever seem to suckout.
I'm not saying that's not the case but how can you know if you're not tracking them?
Originally posted by BlunderCity: But hey they keep reminding us that no day 1 chipleader has ever won the WSOP Main Event so it seems there is a curse of the early tournament big stack after all.
Talking about the WSOP I followed the hand by hand commentary of the final table on wsop.com last year (understandably since I had a little piece of Dennis Phillips) but I'm gonna try the other way this year and have an information blackout until the final table air on Tuesday and watch it as if it was live.
So I'm not gonna lurk around the forum too much by fear of picking something out.
Originally posted by BlunderCity: How can you be in the top 10 stack and lose it all with 1010?
field cap was 500, the break came when there were 110 players left.54 were getting paid. until the break i was top 20, some times even top 10. after the break 2-3 raises were called and lost or all inned so i dropped below the chip average with the blinds being so huge. so when i pushed with 10s i was well below chip average. it doesn't really matter anyway though, does it?
so let me try to break down your reply. first of all i never raise, or even call with dubious hands from early positions so we have to rule this out. if i get involved from early position, so late in a tourney, i have some serious hand that i'm ready to go all in with if necessary. your other point is that i should accept more coinflips. for example, say i'm on the cutoff position and seing that everyone else has folded i raise 3-4BB with J-10 while i am above chip average but still one of the blinds that got me covered moves all in. unless he has a huge overpair KK or AA i should be at worst 35% to win. this is the situation you say i should get to accept more often?
oh, and please guys, DO NOT SPOIL the final table, we want to watch it from tv
Will be putting in around a 10 hour session today maybe longer if i get far in tournies.Ive entered every micro stakes tourney, will enter ever 4.40$ 180 player and trying my hand at satelittes today too.
Ill update if i have any success, no update and u can assume the worst First all in of the day k10 vs 108 and he rivers the 8
Originally posted by Hot Shot: Will be putting in around a 10 hour session today maybe longer if i get far in tournies.
I'm taking the day off.
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Originally posted by egaleo_city12: your other point is that i should accept more coinflips. for example, say i'm on the cutoff position and seing that everyone else has folded i raise 3-4BB with J-10 while i am above chip average but still one of the blinds that got me covered moves all in. unless he has a huge overpair KK or AA i should be at worst 35% to win. this is the situation you say i should get to accept more often?
No 35/65 you're already a relatively substantial dog so you should avoid getting in that situation. But of course you never really know until your opponent show you his cards.
The situation I'm talking about relates mainly to holding small to mid pocket pairs which I normally fold to an all in (unless I have raised already since a lot of the times I get good pot odds on the call) because most of the time I have a stack close to the average or slightly below meaning I'm not desperate yet and can fold and move on (ie find better spots). If however I had a big chipstack, I would call very frequently. In fact with 2/3 of the average or half the average, I would probably fold pairs like 22 up to 55 and maybe as high as 77 depending on position, while with the big stack I will raise very frequently preflop (when the blinds are high compared to when the blinds are low where it's a much more interesting play to limp and find callers from an implied odds perspective because the average chipstack represents a lot more BBs). That makes me a lot more likely to be re-raised and most of the time I would accept what is likely a coinflip.
Also accepting coinflips occurs when you have big draws. You have nothing but with an open ended straight draw, a flush draw, or different combinations of gutshots, overcards and backdoor draws (and it sometimes depends on the size of the re-raise), you are likely to be anything from 55%-45% fav to 45%-55% dog (in reality it can be a bit lower cos he can have a monster hand but you gamble that he doesn't) and that's similar to the race situation you have with a pocket pair against 2 overcards.
You should accept those frequently when you have a large stack. It's your opponent entire stack but only part of yours so he's the ones who shouldn't be in that spot (unless he's short). You're fine, you have room to gamble a bit and you should.
Of course in your J10 example, your likely to be a dog 35%-40% against a better hand that does not dominated you and normal poker play applies meaning it may still be a good spot to call if you have chips to spare because of the pot odds your get on the call (which will depend on the size your opponent's stack and your original raise).
