quote:

Originally posted by egaleo_city12:
this is a double or nothing tourney

my theory that software rewards stupidity is confirmed every day! enjoy

PokerStars Game #26027916209: Tournament #148423023, $10.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit -
Level V (75/150) - 2009/03/16 14:23:25 ET
Table '148423023 1' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: hugoboss2727 (1170 in chips)
Seat 2: lokri (2220 in chips)
Seat 4: Kerrydo (2380 in chips)
Seat 5: mortenfoss (1440 in chips)
Seat 6: hoops0810 (3370 in chips)
Seat 7: sampano (1270 in chips)
Seat 8: egaleo12 (1000 in chips)
Seat 9: Polacheck (910 in chips)
Seat 10: MYXOMOP1 (1240 in chips) is sitting out
hugoboss2727: posts the ante 15
lokri: posts the ante 15
Kerrydo: posts the ante 15
mortenfoss: posts the ante 15
hoops0810: posts the ante 15
sampano: posts the ante 15
egaleo12: posts the ante 15
Polacheck: posts the ante 15
MYXOMOP1: posts the ante 15
sampano: posts small blind 75
egaleo12: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to egaleo12 [Ac 2s]
Polacheck: folds
MYXOMOP1: folds
hugoboss2727: folds
lokri: folds
Kerrydo: folds
mortenfoss: folds
hoops0810: folds
sampano: raises 600 to 750
egaleo12: raises 235 to 985 and is all-in
sampano: calls 235
*** FLOP *** [8c 4s 2h]
*** TURN *** [8c 4s 2h] [6c]
*** RIVER *** [8c 4s 2h 6c] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sampano: shows [2c Jc] (a flush, Jack high)
egaleo12: shows [Ac 2s] (a pair of Deuces)
sampano collected 2105 from pot

He's position raising you, the BB, from the small blind. It's perfectly standard play and perfectly justified given the stack sizes and the value of the blinds and ante (360). He's risking 1000 to win 360 with J2s which may very well be the best hand here as it's slightly above average here. He probably feels there every little chance you will have a hand to call him with (he was wrong on this occasion but if you had J5o you'd be dominating him and there's no way you could call so he can beat most of the hands you could have and would also force you to fold Jack high and Queen high. I'd probably only call with Ace high and King high).

He can't really fold to the re-raise here (another 250 in a pot of 1635). So he calls. He's dominated pre-flop and he's a huge dog after the flop. But he get really lucky donkey style here with a runner runner flush.

This is a perfectly standard bad beat here. Nothing shocking at all. It's ugly play from him (and probably not the smartest thing) but there are angles to justify it (like most bad play in fact). Now if you can't take those beats you probably shouldn't play poker. I get several of these every week, if not every day!!!

Oh and if you knew with what rubbish I raise the BB with sometimes, you'd think I had joined the ranks of the donkeys!!

The guy has just recently hit his 10k, endless fans railing him on his tables, what a machine

oh i know all those things you are talking about, i understand him, i just got pi55ed cause that was the 3rd table i lost today in similar manner. fking luckers...

that 10k guy was truly astonishing, i can't win 10$ in 15 days, he makes more than i make a year... maybe i'm simply not made for that game :P

Welcome back Blunder.How dare you take a few days off ffs
I find it fascinating mate.

Hahahaha!!!!

PokerStars Game #26099812540: Tournament #147626394, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (40/80) - 2009/03/18 19:00:01 WET [2009/03/18 15:00:01 ET]
Table '147626394 57' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: glaskarten (7420 in chips)
Seat 2: abuqadirah08 (2270 in chips)
Seat 3: kpil-340 (2620 in chips)
Seat 4: Rat164 (3815 in chips)
Seat 5: ExsTreMe-X (6135 in chips)
Seat 6: BlunderCity (3465 in chips)
Seat 7: Marcus1503 (8295 in chips)
Seat 8: NotoriousNOR (6845 in chips)
Seat 9: mojoman2000 (11730 in chips) is sitting out
Rat164: posts small blind 40
ExsTreMe-X: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BlunderCity [Ah As]
BlunderCity: raises 240 to 320
Marcus1503: folds
NotoriousNOR: folds
mojoman2000: folds
glaskarten: folds
abuqadirah08: calls 320
kpil-340: folds
Rat164: folds
ExsTreMe-X: folds
*** FLOP *** [8h 6d Th]
mojoman2000 has returned
BlunderCity: bets 480
abuqadirah08: raises 1470 to 1950 and is all-in
BlunderCity: calls 1470
*** TURN *** [8h 6d Th] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [8h 6d Th 7d] [Js]
BlunderCity said, "lol"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BlunderCity: shows [Ah As] (a pair of Aces)
abuqadirah08: shows [6s 9h] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
abuqadirah08 collected 4660 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4660 | Rake 0
Board [8h 6d Th 7d Js]
Seat 1: glaskarten folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: abuqadirah08 showed [6s 9h] and won (4660) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 3: kpil-340 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Rat164 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ExsTreMe-X (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: BlunderCity showed [Ah As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: Marcus1503 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: NotoriousNOR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: mojoman2000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Well well well I'm deep in a tourney for the second time today. 65th of 94 players down from 2133. Not in great shape but perhaps something interesting is on the cards in that $11 rebuy 78K tourney.

This is where bad luck is supposed to strike as it did earlier in the day where the donkey (not even in the blinds) couldn't get away from his A10 calling my JJ re-raise all in of another raiser in earlier position. In fact he insta called and I went out in 64th place.

Better luck here I hope.

oooppps not today, out in 77th place.

The button pushed all in with 1010 and I called with AK suited in the small blind. He flopped a set and rivered a full house.

OK I've got a big stack this time in the $5 rebuy. Tournament chipleader (4x average stack) with 359 players but still very early days. Let's see if I can go deep in this but in all likelihood I will.

Oh dear. Just before the bubble in my $25 add-on tourney

PokerStars Game #26113793482: Tournament #147626605, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2009/03/19 1:51:15 WET [2009/03/18 21:51:15 ET]
Table '147626605 9' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: marc1313 (27924 in chips)
Seat 2: FGforce77 (62036 in chips)
Seat 3: Xuxas20 (11376 in chips)
Seat 4: kvien (34044 in chips)
Seat 5: goster82 (56897 in chips)
Seat 6: seth115 (44857 in chips)
Seat 7: bodinarn (36275 in chips)
Seat 8: BlunderCity (13575 in chips)
Seat 9: Miss Schmidt (20018 in chips)
marc1313: posts the ante 125
FGforce77: posts the ante 125
Xuxas20: posts the ante 125
kvien: posts the ante 125
goster82: posts the ante 125
seth115: posts the ante 125
bodinarn: posts the ante 125
BlunderCity: posts the ante 125
Miss Schmidt: posts the ante 125
bodinarn: posts small blind 600
BlunderCity: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BlunderCity [Kh Kd]
Miss Schmidt: folds
marc1313: folds
FGforce77: folds
Xuxas20: folds
kvien: raises 2400 to 3600
goster82: folds
seth115: folds
bodinarn: folds
BlunderCity: raises 9850 to 13450 and is all-in
kvien: calls 9850
*** FLOP *** [Jd 3h Jc]
*** TURN *** [Jd 3h Jc] [As]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 3h Jc As] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BlunderCity: shows [Kh Kd] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
kvien: shows [Ac Ts] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
kvien collected 28625 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 28625 | Rake 0
Board [Jd 3h Jc As 7h]
Seat 1: marc1313 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: FGforce77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Xuxas20 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: kvien showed [Ac Ts] and won (28625) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 5: goster82 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: seth115 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: bodinarn (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: BlunderCity (big blind) showed [Kh Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 9: Miss Schmidt folded before Flop (didn't bet)

When I told him he made a donkey call he said "pot odds. I was getting 4-1".

Well there we are again, last 10 tables. 38th of 92 players and bang on the average.

Let's see.

quote:

Originally posted by BlunderCity:
Well there we are again, last 10 tables. 38th of 92 players and bang on the average.

Let's see.

Nope out in 38th place AK against AJ. Naturally. I actually knew this was gonna happen as soon as I saw his hand.

this has happened to me like 4 times in the past 3 days. odds say it's about 11% to flop a set with pocket pairs, and yet i have lost so many times this way, it's sick...

PokerStars Game #26131004363: Tournament #147641471, $2.02+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/03/19 19:10:24 EET [2009/03/19 13:10:24 ET]
Table '147641471 8' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: arasunu (3935 in chips)
Seat 2: flamber59 (10170 in chips)
Seat 3: KlausAss2 (3950 in chips)
Seat 4: fufuwpt (3790 in chips)
Seat 5: babel113 (3225 in chips)
Seat 6: champdance (3110 in chips)
Seat 7: egaleo12 (3960 in chips)
Seat 8: frogger1126 (3985 in chips)
Seat 9: BGSD (1875 in chips)
champdance: posts small blind 50
egaleo12: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to egaleo12 [Ac Ks]
frogger1126: folds
BGSD: folds
BGSD re-buys and receives 2000 chips for $2.02
arasunu: calls 100
flamber59: folds
KlausAss2: calls 100
fufuwpt: raises 600 to 700
babel113: folds
champdance: folds
egaleo12: calls 600
arasunu: folds
KlausAss2: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kh 2c 4c]
egaleo12: bets 3260 and is all-in
fufuwpt: calls 3090 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (170) returned to egaleo12
*** TURN *** [Kh 2c 4c] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [Kh 2c 4c 5s] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
egaleo12: shows [Ac Ks] (two pair, Kings and Fours)
fufuwpt: shows [4h 4s] (four of a kind, Fours)
fufuwpt collected 7830 from pot

just happened again, pocket 7s flopped a set :P

whoohoo!!!happened for me once! yay! pocket 4's and flopped a set!

quote:

Originally posted by egaleo_city12:
this has happened to me like 4 times in the past 3 days. odds say it's about 11% to flop a set with pocket pairs, and yet i have lost so many times this way, it's sick...

Yeah you've gotta realise this is an average. Yesterday I flopped about 10-15 sets... I know I multitable like mad but still that's quite an incredible rate. Sometimes I can go days without getting a single one.

what do you mean an average? 11 per cent is 11 per cent every single time the cards are dealt i don't ask that i flop sets all the time, i know i can't. i am complaining cause i lost to small poket pairs flopping sets too many times that were a lot of money for my league

i believe this has to be one of the stupidest hands in the history of the game

Table '146209398 58' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: JonesJack (5430 in chips)
Seat 2: tre850 (3600 in chips)
Seat 3: Black_Mat1 (6690 in chips)
Seat 4: tryxtoxwin (10345 in chips)
Seat 5: bighough (8145 in chips)
Seat 6: freddideeb (13380 in chips)
Seat 7: Antena01 (1520 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: egaleo12 (5160 in chips)
Seat 9: gramateas (1685 in chips) is sitting out
Antena01: posts small blind 100
egaleo12: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to egaleo12 [Kh Th]
gramateas: folds
JonesJack: raises 5230 to 5430 and is all-in
tre850: calls 3600 and is all-in
Black_Mat1: folds
tryxtoxwin: calls 5430
bighough: folds
freddideeb: folds
Antena01: folds
egaleo12: calls 4960 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [9s 2c 9h]
*** TURN *** [9s 2c 9h] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [9s 2c 9h 3h] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JonesJack: shows [7h 9c] (three of a kind, Nines)
tryxtoxwin: shows [4d 4h] (a full house, Fours full of Nines)
tryxtoxwin collected 540 from side pot-2
egaleo12: shows [Kh Th] (a pair of Nines)
tryxtoxwin collected 4680 from side pot-1
tre850: shows [4s 3s] (two pair, Nines and Fours)
tryxtoxwin collected 14500 from main pot
tre850 has timed out while disconnected
JonesJack has timed out while disconnected

can anyone see any reason behind this? cause i just cant...

PokerStars Game #26178243090: Tournament #147643796, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/03/21 1:09:18 EET [2009/03/20 19:09:18 ET]
Table '147643796 401' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: fast_lepa (1470 in chips)
Seat 2: tono71 (1100 in chips)
Seat 3: burnsy62 (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: jimsar (1530 in chips)
Seat 5: P.E.T.U.71 (1750 in chips)
Seat 6: lucasamy (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Bert165 (1510 in chips)
Seat 8: egaleo12 (3510 in chips)
Seat 9: kane8383 (1410 in chips)
tono71: posts small blind 10
burnsy62: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to egaleo12 [Ac 6h]
jimsar: raises 40 to 60
P.E.T.U.71: calls 60
lucasamy: calls 60
Bert165: folds
egaleo12: raises 80 to 140
kane8383: folds
fast_lepa: folds
tono71: folds
burnsy62: calls 120
jimsar: calls 80
P.E.T.U.71: calls 80
lucasamy: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [3h 3d 5d]
burnsy62: checks
jimsar: checks
P.E.T.U.71: bets 100
lucasamy: folds
egaleo12: raises 200 to 300
burnsy62: folds
jimsar: folds
P.E.T.U.71: raises 200 to 500
egaleo12: calls 200
*** TURN *** [3h 3d 5d] [4d]
P.E.T.U.71: checks
egaleo12: bets 600
P.E.T.U.71: calls 600
*** RIVER *** [3h 3d 5d 4d] [Kd]
P.E.T.U.71: checks
egaleo12: bets 640
P.E.T.U.71: calls 510 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (130) returned to egaleo12
*** SHOW DOWN ***
egaleo12: shows [Ac 6h] (a pair of Threes)
P.E.T.U.71: shows [5c Tc] (two pair, Fives and Threes)
P.E.T.U.71 collected 3930 from pot

I can't see why he called the initial raise to 60, OR the re-raise to 140. He's putting almost 10% of his stack in. Admittedly it's early, but still not a good reason to be playing T5. The re-raise on the flop is understandable (thinks he might be leading, and is against any Ax that would re-raise, though behind to most pocket pairs). The check-call on the turn is odd, because it's as though he's ruled out the possibility of a flush/pockets. The call on the river is either stupid (pretty much a case of "oh **** it"), or he knows you have nothing (somehow). I'd like to know why you thought that re-raising with A6o was a good idea tbh. i'm not a fan of Ace-rag early in a tourney.

i was trying to learn and apply the "super aggressive" theory, which in fact was working pretty well for me. but super aggressive or not there is no reason to follow the size of those bets, especially when he has to go all in. i generally don't play A-low so hard, not only early, but also late in a tourney

double or nothing table, enjoy

Table '149674281 1' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: BOEREL (3810 in chips)
Seat 3: luisillom (1085 in chips)
Seat 6: egaleo12 (2015 in chips)
Seat 7: razin292 (4085 in chips)
Seat 8: Foxshot (2810 in chips)
Seat 10: albertoFD (1195 in chips)
BOEREL: posts the ante 15
luisillom: posts the ante 15
egaleo12: posts the ante 15
razin292: posts the ante 15
Foxshot: posts the ante 15
albertoFD: posts the ante 15
razin292: posts small blind 75
Foxshot: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to egaleo12 [Qd Qh]
albertoFD: folds
BOEREL: raises 3645 to 3795 and is all-in
luisillom: folds
egaleo12: calls 2000 and is all-in
razin292: folds
Foxshot: folds
Uncalled bet (1795) returned to BOEREL
*** FLOP *** [Ts 3h 3s]
*** TURN *** [Ts 3h 3s] [Ac]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 3h 3s Ac] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BOEREL: shows [Tc Jd] (a full house, Tens full of Threes)
egaleo12: shows [Qd Qh] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
BOEREL collected 4315 from pot

theory is nice, tactics is nice, but if you are a jinx like me, nothing can help you

Double or nothing with 6 players left and you call an all in?

Why?

because he is known to go all in with rags, as was the case here. and for the love of god, it's common fact that QQ is the third most powerful hand. so it makes perfect sense to call an all in from a donkey player with the third most powerful hand.

you know, everyone is ready to criticise here, but i don't see anyone else posting here, maybe you are all winning... i am definitely not. in fact i'm tired and bored of losing hands where i'm favourite, i am trying to exploit position, make or call value bets and i'm still losing. like when i call the desperate all in of a guy with K-2 and lose with A-3 before the money. ffs, it's 65-35 for a reason... maybe i have to apply the standard internet poker style, all in with every crappy hand i get, regardless of position and everything.

Not criticising but you have around twice as many chips as 2 of the players left and you have no need to call for all your chips whatever hand you have.

You should even fold AA in that position.

Double or nothing is all about not losing chips rather than winning as many as you can.

2 days ago i started playing sit n go's a different way after watching how the guy who turned 100 into 10k played and watching some training videos im trying a new style.

I thought i was quite aggressive but from these studies i was far from it.I wasnt getting my chips in bad enough, which is something you have to do it seems as i often watch these succesful players going all with hands like 7 3 off suit.
The reason for this would be position play and based on their stack and others around them.
Alot of players will think this plays are incorrect, but the maths make it correct.

So far im only 10 dollars up after playing around 70-80 5.50 sit n go, but being up after how bad im running im quite pleased with.

Its depressing having so many beats but then have a look at the guy who made 10k.
He was playing 12-16 dollar sit n go's and had bad runs where he would lose 1k in some sessions, but because he kept to his believes he didnt tilt and made that back and much more.

I started with 200 dollars, ill let you know if anything exciting happens like me going broke of me doubling bank.We will see if this style really does pay off.